This discussion paper provides commentary on the proposed prohibition in the Working Paper submitted by Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain and Sweden to the 2022 GGE on LAWS, July 2022. The paper notes that 'The notion of a system being “completely” outside human control establishes a fantastical and unhelpful basis for boundary definition. A purpose of formulations such as ‘meaningful human control’ has been to build recognition that the nature of human control that is needed requires further specification if it is to be approached normatively. However, no such further specification is provided in relation to this formulation – it is presented in absolute terms.’